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Post by Abbot on Mar 7, 2015 4:08:00 GMT
In point of fact, they do work for SDMs... Hence why the Navy developed the SPR: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mk_12_Special_Purpose_RifleHowever we're making exceptions for the SDM as no one applies to a team as an "SDM". That's a team selected position. |
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Post by Caesar on Mar 7, 2015 13:48:19 GMT
Not a M4. It is, in fact, a Mk 12. Very big difference. It doesn't even have good range. We need something else.
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Post by Sev on Mar 7, 2015 14:32:54 GMT
Like an m14?
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Post by Caesar on Mar 7, 2015 15:10:32 GMT
Yeah, a little better range. But you are getting one, right? I don't think we need to figure that out anymore Abbot.
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Post by Abbot on Mar 7, 2015 16:16:48 GMT
Just pointing out that ARs can be used for SDM weapons. The average engagement distance in the real world conflicts is 300 yards, hence why the military justified the transition from M16 to M4. The SDM is not supposed to get uber far range accuracy, just accuracy on a short to semi-far range distance engagements. Hence why the SPR is an excellent SDM weapon. But I believe the M14 is an excellent choice.
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Post by Caesar on Mar 7, 2015 16:33:17 GMT
Abbot does like the Navy.
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Post by Ecthelion on Mar 7, 2015 22:54:14 GMT
I like the Navy too.
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Post by Sev on Mar 8, 2015 0:14:00 GMT
Just pointing out that ARs can be used for SDM weapons. The average engagement distance in the real world conflicts is 300 yards, hence why the military justified the transition from M16 to M4. The SDM is not supposed to get uber far range accuracy, just accuracy on a short to semi-far range distance engagements. Hence why the SPR is an excellent SDM weapon. But I believe the M14 is an excellent choice. Maybe this is true in real world combat, but you have to remember that this is not real world combat! Thus my quest for superior range and accuracy. |
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Post by Caesar on Mar 8, 2015 1:13:31 GMT
I hope that can be achieved in a M14.
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Post by Ajax on Mar 8, 2015 3:07:21 GMT
You're probably going to want to upgrade the M14, because while CYMA is decent, they aren't known for being super top notch. And you could probably improve performance.
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Post by Abbot on Mar 8, 2015 3:16:01 GMT
Guys, in the airsoft world especially, ARs are able to perform/outperform any M14 hands down. It is easy to do so with an M16, SPR, or even just an AR with a longer barrel. There is no caliber in airsoft, therefore the only things that make the difference are the barrel lengths; and an SPR and M16 both have 510mm inner barrels, the same as an M14. The AR (mainly in airsoft), is hands down the most versatile and adaptable weapon platform of all. While I support and applaud his decision in getting an M14 (as his personal preference is not ARs), all I'm saying is,
Don't dis the AR!!!
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Post by Caesar on Mar 8, 2015 16:41:52 GMT
I love ARs! But, we should support guns designed for marksmen. I doubt one could get as good accuracy from a "AR".
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Post by Abbot on Mar 8, 2015 18:28:04 GMT
 And anyway, Guys, in the airsoft world especially, ARs are able to perform/outperform any M14 hands down. It is easy to do so with an M16, SPR, or even just an AR with a longer barrel. |
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Post by Sev on Mar 9, 2015 1:28:32 GMT
Yeah I really got that vibe while taking down numbers of AR wielding airsofters with my SVD! We'll see when I get my M14!
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Post by Abbot on Mar 9, 2015 1:46:43 GMT
Taking down someone with a certain type of gun doesn't mean its a better gun, just maybe a better player or unique circumstance. That's like saying such and such gun is amazing because Joe Schmoe got 25 kills in one game with it...
An AR in the form of a DMR (SPR, some RECCE M4 builds) can perform and sometimes outperform any other DMR in airsoft. That's a fact, not a theory. Not at all saying its what you should have gotten, just saying that claiming they can't perform well as DMRs is a shallow statement.
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