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Post by Sev on Mar 18, 2015 1:14:27 GMT
Bad news and good news. Bad news is that my order for the m14 never went through (that would explain why it took so long in coming), and now it (and all other comp m14s) are out of stock. Good news is that I ordered an A&K Masada DMR that can use M4 mags... so now I match mags without having to use the m4 style, win-win!
Oh, and while I was going through the options I came across this link If we do choose to ever get an lmg, I think this is the kind of thing we should look for. |
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Post by Ajax on Mar 18, 2015 3:18:07 GMT
I really do like that LMG, relatively affordable too.
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Post by Abbot on Mar 18, 2015 12:14:28 GMT
Ok, I got some good news, and I got some bad news... Good news: Congrats on getting the awesome Masada! Bad News: I've heard some not extremely decent things about the A&K Masada... I'm not sure what was disliked about it, so beware! And let me know if anything goes wrong. But congrats! Always wanted a Masada... Edit: Also, that LMG is cool and all, but I think these ones are much cooler: www.evike.com/products/28201/www.evike.com/products/37513/One guy painted the last one I linked in a dusted tan/snakeskin pattern, but left the barrel unpainted to simulate having to change out the barrel in a RS situation because it got too hot. Cool idea, I think we should do it with whatever choice we go with. Edit 2: I found the pic:  |
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Post by Ecthelion on Mar 18, 2015 16:26:25 GMT
That is sweet Abbot.
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Post by Caesar on Mar 18, 2015 20:15:01 GMT
Uhhh, no. Neither of those have a respectable barrel length. They are just all-around taboo.  I think that this is cooler: www.evike.com/products/32345/  P.S. "These ones" is improper grammar.  |
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Post by Abbot on Mar 18, 2015 20:35:01 GMT
Um, those "taboo" things have 363mm inner barrels... That is way more than enough. The LMG gunner doesn't need to outrange the enemy, just be able to have the equivalent range and be able to put a ton of rounds downrange.
And no, a pre 21st century LMG would not do at all. Totally takes away from the principle of milsim. Though they used it then, milsim is meant to simulate military engagements in a modern sense.
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Post by Caesar on Mar 18, 2015 21:16:38 GMT
Not to mention ammo capacity.  The Mk II M249 has a 509mm inner barrel...range is an advantage in a support gun. |
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Post by Abbot on Mar 18, 2015 21:30:51 GMT
Range is an advantage in every gun, its just not necessary. The Mk46 looks cooler in my opinion, and a shorter barrel is more maneuverable. Also the stock is retractable, which makes for a more comfortable fit. The standard M249 stock was a huge pain if I recall correctly. Also, another one which would be amazing: www.evike.com/products/31036/ |
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Post by Spidey on Mar 18, 2015 21:41:03 GMT
I do see Abbots point, but I agree with Ajax in that I am really partial to the MK II M249. Any of those would work for me though.
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Post by Abbot on Mar 18, 2015 21:43:40 GMT
Well, there's ways the Mk1: www.evike.com/products/28202/But I would have much more respect for team using more modern weaponry, and respect is something we need to think about as well. |
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Post by Spidey on Mar 18, 2015 21:55:51 GMT
Mk1, no sir. that even looks ancient. We Probably should go more conventional like you said Abbot.
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Post by Caesar on Mar 18, 2015 22:01:09 GMT
An LMG should take firepower to another level. That includes having decent concentration of fire at a good distance. Adding as many advantages to the gun that would support our squad is highly recommended.
Edit: This will also enhance grounds for respect.
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Post by Abbot on Mar 19, 2015 0:56:16 GMT
The range difference will be very little, I guarantee it. And as you said, decent concentration of fire at a "good distance". A 363mm barrel gives an excellent range, or distance. The additional range of the MkII will not give any more advantage as the engagement distances will be well within the 363mm's effective range. Therefore, a longer barrel does not add any additional advantage.
It therefore goes down to comfort, weight, and maneuverability. All of which are on the side of the more modern weapons, the M249 Para and the Mk46 (and maybe the Mk43, though it is slightly longer). There is a reason the best SOF units (Devgru, CAG, Army SF, etc.) have steadily flushed out the MkII and MkI in place of the more modern shooters. They just aren't as maneuverable and as comfortable to shoot as the Mk46, M249 Para, and others are.
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Post by Spidey on Mar 19, 2015 13:46:49 GMT
I think Abbot is right on this one. The difference is too small to go old school,and the lighter more maneuverable gun is the most appealing. Lets get the modern.
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Post by Caesar on Mar 19, 2015 14:19:29 GMT
Let me rephrase that. "Excellent distance" and precision will do more damage. An airsoft LMG is more like a heavy machine gun, as many AEG rifles already perform like LMGs. Besides, have you not noticed the range difference between say a sniper gun (longer barrel) and an AR? Maneuverability, weight, and comfort should not be big issues, since the only movement will be to reach a good firing position. Just saying.
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